Comments on: The Programming Language with the Happiest Users http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/ Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:42:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Thijs Blaauw http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-2545 Thijs Blaauw Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:38:57 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-2545 I would like to see the absolute numbers. Like LISP 60 tweets, 40 positive, 20 negative. (This is just an example) I would like to see the absolute numbers. Like LISP 60 tweets, 40 positive, 20 negative. (This is just an example)

]]> By: Brent Longborough http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1656 Brent Longborough Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:33:51 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1656 Do you think that being a Twitter user might distort the population a bit? (As in "If you like Java, you are likely to have a tendency to Twitter...", for instance.) But thanks for an interesting insight. Do you think that being a Twitter user might distort the population a bit? (As in “If you like Java, you are likely to have a tendency to Twitter…”, for instance.)

But thanks for an interesting insight.

]]> By: mazyoyo http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1638 mazyoyo Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:38:57 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1638 i love java, its my primary language :D i love java, its my primary language :D

]]> By: Mrs Ada Lovelace http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1604 Mrs Ada Lovelace Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:29:09 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1604 Hi, you forgot my language, ADA is my preferred programming language... and what about intercal or brainf*ck ? And also, object oriented cobol ? (i.e. ADD 1 TO COBOL) ? Ada Lovelace, countess and programmer Hi, you forgot my language,
ADA is my preferred programming language…

and what about intercal or brainf*ck ?

And also, object oriented cobol ? (i.e. ADD 1 TO COBOL) ?

Ada Lovelace, countess and programmer

]]> By: Scott L. Burson http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1515 Scott L. Burson Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:01:40 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1515 How interesting that the top two are Perl and Lisp. These languages are in many ways very different -- as a Lisp aficionado, I find Perl is the language I most love to hate, and of course lots of people love to hate Lisp :-) But they do have one element of their design philosophies in common, which is that both believe firmly in empowering the programmer: making it as easy as possible to implement the desired functionality, without trying to force any particular structure on the code. In a way it stands to reason that they would come out on top in this little experiment. How interesting that the top two are Perl and Lisp. These languages are in many ways very different — as a Lisp aficionado, I find Perl is the language I most love to hate, and of course lots of people love to hate Lisp :-) But they do have one element of their design philosophies in common, which is that both believe firmly in empowering the programmer: making it as easy as possible to implement the desired functionality, without trying to force any particular structure on the code. In a way it stands to reason that they would come out on top in this little experiment.

]]> By: Gordon http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1506 Gordon Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:40:55 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1506 PERL - we've come a long way, baby ;) PERL – we’ve come a long way, baby ;)

]]> By: Sammy http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1496 Sammy Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:16:39 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1496 Currently I program in Perl, PHP, Javascript, Labview. In the past, I have programmed in VHDL,Verilog,C and C++. Perl is the most humane and most powerful of these languages. It has never failed me. Currently I program in Perl, PHP, Javascript, Labview. In the past, I have programmed in VHDL,Verilog,C and C++.

Perl is the most humane and most powerful of these languages. It has never failed me.

]]> By: Paul Kooros http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1484 Paul Kooros Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:26:25 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1484 I am primarily a Perl programmer, and super-happy with it. I use and love PHP, Python, R/Splus, Java, JavaScript, C++, C (and even x86 assembly) too, but Perl is the one that gives me that Kung-Fu "Huwwaaa Yah!" feeling of power. There is something to be said about the correlation of how long you've been using a language and how happy you are with it. Perl has been around for 21 years (14 in a mature form), and has a steady, broad user base, so that might help it. Guido (of Python) states that a principal mission of the language's design is to be satisfying to program in. Most net-developed languages we have seen have been responsive to their shortcomings, and have significantly matured. Perl has a natural advantage, having had a longer time to mature (in a vibrant and responsive development environment), and indeed was the early open-source petri dish for experimenting with many cool language features that have migrated in to many other languages, like PCRE and embeddability. There are many criticisms of Perl ("Too complex", "Too Unix-paradigmy", "Too cryptic and quirky"), and there is some truth to these. Perl is very large (operators, functions and notation from C, C++, awk, Fortran, Pascal, lisp, Algol, Bourne/C shell, etc.), it has typing-saving shortcuts (cryptifying it), and is not "TSA" child-safe, but once you really know it well (and follow basic best practices), you have a big Harry Potter's magic bag full of tools to apply to a huge domain of problems. My programming happiness thus, is like any American man's visceral satisfaction and happiness with his garage full of tools (more=better), able to attack any mechanical or home improvement problem (read and follow all safety procedures!) with Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon -ability. Hhuwwaaaa Yah! :-) I am primarily a Perl programmer, and super-happy with it. I use and love PHP, Python, R/Splus, Java, JavaScript, C++, C (and even x86 assembly) too, but Perl is the one that gives me that Kung-Fu “Huwwaaa Yah!” feeling of power.

There is something to be said about the correlation of how long you’ve been using a language and how happy you are with it. Perl has been around for 21 years (14 in a mature form), and has a steady, broad user base, so that might help it. Guido (of Python) states that a principal mission of the language’s design is to be satisfying to program in. Most net-developed languages we have seen have been responsive to their shortcomings, and have significantly matured. Perl has a natural advantage, having had a longer time to mature (in a vibrant and responsive development environment), and indeed was the early open-source petri dish for experimenting with many cool language features that have migrated in to many other languages, like PCRE and embeddability.

There are many criticisms of Perl (“Too complex”, “Too Unix-paradigmy”, “Too cryptic and quirky”), and there is some truth to these. Perl is very large (operators, functions and notation from C, C++, awk, Fortran, Pascal, lisp, Algol, Bourne/C shell, etc.), it has typing-saving shortcuts (cryptifying it), and is not “TSA” child-safe, but once you really know it well (and follow basic best practices), you have a big Harry Potter’s magic bag full of tools to apply to a huge domain of problems.

My programming happiness thus, is like any American man’s visceral satisfaction and happiness with his garage full of tools (more=better), able to attack any mechanical or home improvement problem (read and follow all safety procedures!) with Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon -ability. Hhuwwaaaa Yah! :-)

]]> By: Cliff Wells http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1467 Cliff Wells Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:59:56 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1467 Using Twitter to gather data about programming languages is somewhat akin to polling people at Walmart about their favorite philosopher. They might have one, but I suspect their choices will say far more about the chosen forum and participants than it does the philosopher. Perhaps the title should have been "Scientists discover life at bottom of landfill". Using Twitter to gather data about programming languages is somewhat akin to polling people at Walmart about their favorite philosopher. They might have one, but I suspect their choices will say far more about the chosen forum and participants than it does the philosopher.

Perhaps the title should have been “Scientists discover life at bottom of landfill”.

]]> By: emilper http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1466 emilper Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:11:47 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1466 I got work only in PHP and Java lately ... I use Perl to relax, so I understand the rating :) I got work only in PHP and Java lately … I use Perl to relax, so I understand the rating :)

]]> By: Daniel Weinreb http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1464 Daniel Weinreb Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:38:19 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1464 It would be interesting to see the denominators as well as the ratios. For each language, how many tweets were seen? I enjoyed the result since I'm a Lisp enthusiast. In fact, I was general chair of the International Lisp Conference 2009 last spring (ilc09.org). But for the reasons you yourself point out, it's hard to draw serious conclusions from this research, even though it's a lot of fun. Thanks very much! It would be interesting to see the denominators as well as the ratios. For each language, how many tweets were seen?

I enjoyed the result since I’m a Lisp enthusiast. In fact, I was general chair of the International Lisp Conference 2009 last spring (ilc09.org). But for the reasons you yourself point out, it’s hard to draw serious conclusions from this research, even though it’s a lot of fun. Thanks very much!

]]> By: Mattched IT http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1463 Mattched IT Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:39:13 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1463 Quite interesting results - though I suspect assembler programmers are so unhappy as to be off the list ;) Quite interesting results – though I suspect assembler programmers are so unhappy as to be off the list ;)

]]> By: ak1010 http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1462 ak1010 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:41:02 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1462 perl is highest because any complex code can be written in 140 char limit :-) perl is highest because any complex code can be written in 140 char limit :-)

]]> By: Bill Bartmann http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1461 Bill Bartmann Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:30:04 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1461 Excellent site, keep up the good work Excellent site, keep up the good work

]]> By: Gianluca http://blog.crowdflower.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1460 Gianluca Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:45:16 +0000 http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2009/05/the-programming-language-with-the-happiest-users/#comment-1460 I use Perl and I think is a very nice language. At first it may seem a little bit complicated but when you got it you feel that is powerful, that it doesn't constraint you like other languages and is very funny. I use Perl and I think is a very nice language. At first it may seem a little bit complicated but when you got it you feel that is powerful, that it doesn’t constraint you like other languages and is very funny.

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